Wagering limits and abusive terms

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COMPLAINT OF BETTING COMPANIES TO EEEP FOR BETTING LIMITS AND THEIR ABUSIVE TERMS


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To those who have been imposed betting limits by the companies, I suggest that everyone send an e-mail to the eeep with their complaint so that they are forced to take some measures. I personally have been limited by all the companies and from most of them I have an official reply via email that they have imposed limits on me (after I asked them) so I will send them to the eeep. I don't expect much, but I believe if many people make this complaint, maybe something will happen. Some terms of the companies are abusive (we do what we want unilaterally). I also consider it abusive that any company allows a max bet of e.g. 100 euros for one purchase to each player while those who have a limit of 1 euro.

In the betting, limits had been imposed in the casinos up to 2 euros in the b national games, also the eep had imposed betting limits, so why not do something here as well.

If a person makes a complaint their ear won't sweat.
 
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I do not understand...
Companies are shops. I'm sorry to tell you, but every shop is free to "choose" customers... at the same time, it is obliged by law to offer its services to those who meet the conditions
I mean, what will you say to the EEP....they won't let me play? ok this is illegal and you would do well to file a complaint.
if you tell them they let me play but not as much as I want then your complaint will go to the trash bin

because I'm a little older than you... I declare myself a professional when it comes to betting. I make money in all possible ways. Of course, I have eaten my limit in several
I mean, what should I do? should I file a complaint with the EEEP because stoiximan doesn't want to "match" me? why fonbet won't let me play 10k in corners?
does it make sense to you?

if there wasn't this "brake" from the companies, believe me, I would have already made a proposal to buy PAOK, for example, I would have half of Thessalonica because the other half would have been taken by other betting "professionals"
 
A few decades ago, from a forum, I met a young man here in Italy... around 12-13 years old there.
He had some studies on computers and statistical analysis...
what had the lad been doing...
he had collected some 1000+ accounts from his friends at marathonbet if you have heard...arber's paradise then and of course value.
when he hired you, someone would set you a limit of 6-7-10-15 depending on the match.

the atheophobe weighed value max bet ON EVERYTHING HE FOUND...not on an acc...on paraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
we are talking about a massacre

what did marathonbet do... it changes it after a few months and sets a max bet limit of 1 euro.
what did the lad do... he continued with 1 euro but put more accs in the fight to weigh in parallel
once there was a massacre
what to do and marathonbet lost so much money, set a limit of 0... all accounts are useless

the lad never worked again...he collected pennies in 2 years and said no

I personally know several children who could do this EASILY in Greece
how long would winmasters last? Netbet?
it wouldn't last

it would be good to have a broader perspective on some issues
we have endless things to complain about in EEEP... the limit on professional players is not one of them
 
A few decades ago, from a forum, I met a young man here in Italy... around 12-13 years old there.
He had some studies on computers and statistical analysis...
what had the lad been doing...
he had collected some 1000+ accounts from his friends at marathonbet if you have heard...arber's paradise then and of course value.
when he hired you, someone would set you a limit of 6-7-10-15 depending on the match.

the atheophobe weighed value max bet ON EVERYTHING HE FOUND...not on an acc...on paraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
we are talking about a massacre

what did marathonbet do... it changes it after a few months and sets a max bet limit of 1 euro.
what did the lad do... he continued with 1 euro but put more accs in the fight to weigh in parallel
once there was a massacre
what to do and marathonbet lost so much money, set a limit of 0... all accounts are useless

the lad never worked again...he collected pennies in 2 years and said no

I personally know several children who could do this EASILY in Greece
how long would winmasters last? Netbet?
it wouldn't last

it would be good to have a broader perspective on some issues
we have endless things to complain about in EEEP... the limit on professional players is not one of them

The companies have huge revenues (bet 300 mil announced annual profits if I'm correct) so they shouldn't normally be bothered when someone wins but they do everything for maximum profit ie how much can they lose if they lift the bans? Let's take for example 1 game where the bet has a Max bet of e.g. 50 euros for the whole world, I play value and find value and bet 40 euros, others like me also see it, how many do you think will buy the good performance, 3 others should buy it will the performance have fallen and you are losing value so the company will be exposed? I don't think there is any chance for that, it has a max bet which differs from market to market.
 
I do not understand...
Companies are shops. I'm sorry to tell you, but every shop is free to "choose" customers... at the same time, it is obliged by law to offer its services to those who meet the conditions
I mean, what will you say to the EEP....they won't let me play? ok this is illegal and you would do well to file a complaint.
if you tell them they let me play but not as much as I want then your complaint will go to the trash bin

because I'm a little older than you... I declare myself a professional when it comes to betting. I make money in all possible ways. Of course, I have eaten my limit in several
I mean, what should I do? should I file a complaint with the EEEP because stoiximan doesn't want to "match" me? why fonbet won't let me play 10k in corners?
does it make sense to you?

if there wasn't this "brake" from the companies, believe me, I would have already made a proposal to buy PAOK, for example, I would have half of Thessalonica because the other half would have been taken by other betting "professionals"
Yes, if only the bet wins huge sums and the players can't or lose, do you like this situation?

These companies are monopolies - cartels and they make huge profits at the expense of the players who buy in the hope of profit. The bet is unfair to the player so why not let the players win.
What you say about half of Thessalonians is completely unfounded and I can't understand why you say them
I did not mention a 10k bet, nor an exposed company coming out of a market
 
Let's go one more time because you didn't understand

Cartels-Monopolies blah blah blah....the sure thing is that they are not charity companies to feed/enrich joker9424 and antonisxanthi94 because we understood how the market goes and what we can get

Let's say that you are right (which you are not)... and stoix/novi leaves 50 euro max bet per bet because we filed a complaint against them and made them da
I in stoix have roi in value 14,5%....novibet I return to 13%....in the 3 sisters bwin/vista/sport 19%
I only tried 5 out of 14, I don't want to talk about winm, netbet, 365, etc.

stoix with my own criteria in value gets me about 85-90 bet every day.
Say that it leaves me 50 only because you put it that way
Let's say 80 bet....80*50 makes us 4000 euros a day.
4000*300 days a year is 1,2 Mil....with 14,5%
This as a profit is 174 thousand euros....from stoix. 156 thousand euros from Novibet. 228 from bwin and another 228 from vista and another 228 from sportingbet

With your own logic, 50 euros for example being the limit for limited accounts, I will have taken out a little over a million on my personal Id....
pay attention....with the skills I have, I can with one id do 1 million damage a year in these 5
ONE ID...

and I put a kopiera as suggested by my friend Filippos from Thessaloniki
"doc what you play, let them copy it but 10 machines"
immediately start counting all this to 10..... in practice it is also done to 20*30*40 etc... enjoy

Forget the cowgirl... say it doesn't exist (that it does)
An id equal to 1 mil.....from 5 only companies
and I'm certainly not the best there is... there are a lot of talented valuebettors

I say let's get together for 10 days like me with a bet of at least 50 euros to see how quickly stoiximan and the rest get down on their knees

try to see the whole thing from a different point of view...
in a conversation I had with a well-known grasshopper...."he owes me 365 thousand from valuebetting and he won't pay them"......"it doesn't matter though...drops in the ocean from what I got from them"
 
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Let's go one more time because you didn't understand

Cartels-Monopolies blah blah blah....the sure thing is that they are not charity companies to feed/enrich joker9424 and antonisxanthi94 because we understood how the market goes and what we can get

Let's say that you are right (which you are not)... and stoix/novi leaves 50 euro max bet per bet because we filed a complaint against them and made them da
I in stoix have roi in value 14,5%....novibet I return to 13%....in the 3 sisters bwin/vista/sport 19%
I only tried 5 out of 14, I don't want to talk about winm, netbet, 365, etc.

stoix with my own criteria in value gets me about 85-90 bet every day.
Say that it leaves me 50 only because you put it that way
Let's say 80 bet....80*50 makes us 4000 euros a day.
4000*300 days a year is 1,2 Mil....with 14,5%
This as a profit is 174 thousand euros....from stoix. 156 thousand euros from Novibet. 228 from bwin and another 228 from vista and another 228 from sportingbet

With your own logic, 50 euros for example being the limit for limited accounts, I will have taken out a little over a million on my personal Id....
pay attention....with the skills I have, I can with one id do 1 million damage a year in these 5
ONE ID...

and I put a kopiera as suggested by my friend Filippos from Thessaloniki
"doc what you play, let them copy it but 10 machines"
immediately start counting all this to 10..... in practice it is also done to 20*30*40 etc... enjoy

Forget the cowgirl... say it doesn't exist (that it does)
An id equal to 1 mil.....from 5 only companies
and I'm certainly not the best there is... there are a lot of talented valuebettors

I say let's get together for 10 days like me with a bet of at least 50 euros to see how quickly stoiximan and the rest get down on their knees

try to see the whole thing from a different point of view...
in a conversation I had with a well-known grasshopper...."he owes me 365 thousand from valuebetting and he won't pay them"......"it doesn't matter though...drops in the ocean from what I got from them"
The 14% you say is excessive and 80 bets a day (80 bets a day needs an automatic system to play, not a human) I'm talking about 3-5k a year
not for 1 thousand mercy. 1 mirio thus the hashura comes out from all the players for the company. That is, if a game has a turnover of e.g. 1000 euros, a company in the 3 points will be able to accept but e.g. 500 euros in a value of 10 players with 50 euros?
Here they close lost accounts because they didn't like the way they played
I am not obliged to believe these incredible things you say nor do I care if they are true or not.
I want a fair betting market, no limits, no multiple accounts and tricks with 10 machines following etc. with those it's reasonable to get banned
 
The 14% you say is excessive and 80 bets a day (80 bets a day needs an automatic system to play, not a human) I'm talking about 3-5k a year
not for 1 thousand mercy. 1 mirio thus the hashura comes out from all the players for the company. That is, if a game has a turnover of e.g. 1000 euros, a company in the 3 points will be able to accept but e.g. 500 euros in a value of 10 players with 50 euros?
Here they close lost accounts because they didn't like the way they played
I am not obliged to believe these incredible things you say nor do I care if they are true or not.
I want a fair betting market, no limits, no multiple accounts and tricks with 10 machines following etc. with those it's reasonable to get banned
You don't have to believe me. And I don't play 80....I play more bets/day and make a bigger turnover than 1 mil
I play 4 different sports...if you put it down it's 20 bets per hour up and down
I wrote it again...I don't bet. I play professionally for profit
I speak with facts from the things I make...I've been doing this since 2008
17,5% I had 19 Stoix but he made a change in basketball he dropped me
There is a market in basketball (1,87-1.9) that produces a positive result of 74% in a very large sample
it is reasonable for me to know the above things. I'm older
and I told you again... there are better people than me

open your mind and see it from a different perspective
there is no justice anywhere

you're just asking to make money off a company forever.....
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The bet has so many ambiguities that no conclusion can be reached. It's like the GDP, I watched Pasok and ND as a kid, they were talking about the GDP and both did everything right because depending on how you did the analysis, you drew different conclusions.
I absolutely agree with many things, but I also have my objections.
What is a professional player?
We will agree that the terms are for fun so professional players no limits, they should not have access because it is just for fun.
What we all accept about the limits on professionals is wrong, professionals should not have access, Always within the limits.
So why don't they close the company accounts and put a cents limit?
Simply and only to limit those who win whether they play small amounts or at a professional level.
However, we said that there is no definition of a professional.
I didn't understand (I know the answers, trader to get rid of money he bought, etc.) why should she be interested in how much I earn since someone else has taken the opposite point?
The company will win no matter what.
I am not of the opinion to discourage someone by saying our correct opinions about how the company sees them.
I am waiting for the time when I will have imit in all the companies, I will do what the friend says for each company and in parallel I will ask for permission through the EEEP to play in non-licensed ones because as an EU citizen I do not have access to this type of entertainment.
And when they say to the idiots that even with 10 cents I can play and have fun, we will laugh a lot only when my lawyer will present the emails about having fun when the bet was raised from 2 euros to 20 casino, the opinion of the companies for the fun in a spin and what they define for me as fun for a 90-minute event, etc.

Friend joker9424 said there are other visuals!

As friend joker9424 writes, I see them correctly and logically.
And AntonisXanthi94 he writes well.

Depending on which point of view you will see them and approach the subject.
I will not deal with the limits but with the right to have fun of this type.

It is a fact that the only entertainment recognized by bookmakers is the bouzoukis!
You'll take the bottles, you'll listen to Angela, you'll leave your money, and again next week!
Are you a player to win? This is not fun!

What we write above has no value.

Only the name of the company on a plate
 
he had collected some 1000+ accounts from his friends at marathonbet if you have heard...arber's paradise then and of course value.
when he hired you, someone would set you a limit of 6-7-10-15 depending on the match.

the atheophobe weighed value max bet ON EVERYTHING HE FOUND...not on an acc...on paraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
we are talking about a massacre
How did God do it?
With what little knowledge I have to make it right, I know what he wants:
1000 packs (different macs)
1000 ip!!! (internet connections)
 

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