Changes in the way gambling is taxed - What the provision provides

cosmicsports

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The case is Christlike and apostolic.
After all the games are rake and if we look at it from OPAP aside, good night Margarita!
Let them take the tax per card from the companies - which also pay a large tax as is well known.
Is there no consultation to write these?
 

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These letters from agents, companies, etc. that were published?
Is there a consultation site?
 

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THERE IS NO CONSULTATION


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THERE IS NO CONSULTATION


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And these letters above that appeared?
 

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They sent them to Maximou .. anyone can send them
 

cosmicsports

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What is the "bulletin" guys?
A proof of it OPAP ;
Such a receipt may contain 18 lost games and 1 won.
The cost of the 18 losers can be 36 euros and the winner can be 2 euros and win 180 euros.
What are they taxed on?
178, ie yield = 100 + 2 + 78 * 0.975 = 178.05;
Or 142, ie yield = 100 + 38 + 42 * 0.975 = 178.95;
Or is it the total non-deductible cost, ie yield = 180 * 0.975 = 175.50?
Or is the total more than 100 non-deductible of the profit, ie 100 + 80 * 0.975 = 178?

These four numbers popped up close but it does not matter.
Is it a ticket = a winning game contained in the ticket?
 
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cosmicsports

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They sent them to Maximou .. anyone can send them

Okay at Maximos.
Posted I cry. All together or did you go to the agents' site and I do not know where else you found them?
Is it fait accompli now?
Explain the above to us if you can (what is the "bulletin").
 

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Welcome to the world of horse racing (!)
So long only ο hippodrome were taxed per receipt, while the bet per column! In fact, we paid 15% tax from 100 to 500 € and 20% from 500 + (!!!) Now eat it in the pop, because they are looking for financing the Super League.
 

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Welcome to the world of horse racing (!)
So long only ο hippodrome were taxed per receipt, while the bet per column! In fact, we paid 15% tax from 100 to 500 € and 20% from 500 + (!!!) Now eat it in the pop, because they are looking for financing the Super League.


In foreign horse racing this was done by him OPAP.
Illegally.
I had written to the EEEP - he refused to consider it.
To the consumer ombudsman - he also refused.
Then I went to Tsakalotos's office and asked them "do you find a bass and is there a circular that justifies it?" and the legal advisor looked for it and told me "no there is no circular that justifies it but we do not intervene - tell the EEEP again".
The EEEP, however, never responded.
It is also an AADE office that may have had some responsibility but I did not go (on the one hand I got sick, on the other hand they got flat after the lockdowns).

Now what exactly is playing with the new law I do not understand. What is a "ticket"?

The issue is not to add tickets to the internet. I play 50 in Gillingham in the morning and another 50 at noon. Don't make me 100 - they are not obliged but they are too ...
Years ago I was in stoiximan which I cut because it did not put horse racing.
Ο stoiximan applied the old law to the euro but its minimum unit was 10 cents.
I go into the chat and tell them "hey, at 10c you have to tax, as well as the OPAP I tax them at 25c.
Ο stoiximan so he changed it the other day (!) to 10c and until now, when the old law is still in force, he taxes at 10c.
But I wrote the same to bet365 and they said "oh no, it is not possible, in the euro we".


(*) we do not know if the opaque hike ends in the state - since it is not provided by law (let your paper say "tax"!)
 
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As was done in the racecourse, the taxation will be done (!) Per proof of profit (!)
Example:
Proof gain:368 €
we subtract the first 100 € (368-100 = 268)

are taxed:268€ as follows:

100 * 2,5% =2,5€
168 * 5% = 8,40€
tax = 10,90€
collection: 368,00-10,90 =357, 10 €
 

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As was done in the racecourse, the taxation will be done (!) Per proof of profit (!)
Example:
Proof gain:368 €
we subtract the first 100 € (368-100 = 268)

are taxed:268€ as follows:

100 * 2,5% =2,5€
168 * 5% = 8,40€
tax = 10,90€
collection: 368,00-10,90 =357, 10 €

So you say <ticket = the winning combinations in one ticket>.
If you play 6 triple scores-6 the 728 lost columns say nothing. They give you a penny and then
calculate the tax depending on what the score-6 pays.
That's how it goes ; What does lilis say?
 

cosmicsports

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The "tax" is his obligation OPAP to the state, in short ends up in AADE , controlled directly by the troika.

Specific ;
How do you know ;
It is (was) 100 euros per column and 500 euros per column the two tax scales.
100 euros per ticket was not valid.
You even wrote it to us at the Ascot June 2015 races and we found out - because I with the system OPAP I do not play foreign.
So if it is not his obligation OPAP per slip, what do I care how it describes on your receipt? Some vazivuzukia is done.
 

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When SYRIZA took the lead and appointed Varoufakis Minister of Finance, the latter placed in EEEP
after many personal interviews, a very honest man, who not he agreed to "take" them, because then he was playing all the game with vlt's specifically they wanted to put 36000 (something like that) all over the territory! He made a restriction plan (with the opening hours, with hasour limits, etc.) and they fell to eat him from 10 sides! Because they did not fit in the existing agencies, which is about 5.500 vlt's and they had to create new points of sale, they thought the following: to do "college" with people of the night and the underworld, who were already working the specific machines (illegally) and knew the market, in exchange for their legalization! In fact, because playing outside the agency is not allowed, they also changed the rules and passed them as opap play (!) Ο OPAP in fact, he sent a list of these "gentlemen" by region of Greece, for approval to the President of the EEEP (which I mentioned above) putting the pistol on his head to pass it! When after a while Tsipras was forced to "resign" Varoufakis and place Tsakalotos in the position of Minister of Finance, they immediately changed the president of EEEP and put one at his suggestion. OPAP. Leaving the former (the honest) sent to the jackal a stick, with all the irregularities that had come to his notice and the latter the disappeared as if it never existed! This was the situation when he left cosmic , that's why his case had this end. Essentially the EEEP works as Appendix of OPAP! THERE IS NO ESSENTIAL CHECK ..... ALL CASES ARE "LOST" ON THE ROAD! That is why, sir cosmic, no one ever answered you!
For me who knows from the background is extremely paradoxical dot, where did this tax case arise (!!) Why is it happening now, where the LICENSES are being distributed (???) DO THEY WANT THIS EXACTLY (?) TO BE PREVENTED BY SOME KANOURGI (??) Knowing the power that o OPAP on background, ALL this seems to me a lot SUSPICIOUS!
 
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When SYRIZA took the lead and appointed Varoufakis Minister of Finance, the latter placed in EEEP
after many personal interviews, a very honest man, who not he agreed to "take" them, because then he was playing all the game with vlt's specifically they wanted to put 36000 (something like that) all over the territory! He made a restriction plan (with the opening hours, with hasour limits, etc.) and they fell to eat him from 10 sides! Because they did not fit in the existing agencies, which is about 5.500 vlt's and they had to create new points of sale, they thought the following: to do "college" with people of the night and the underworld, who were already working the specific machines (illegally) and knew the market, in exchange for their legalization! In fact, because playing outside the agency is not allowed, they also changed the rules and passed them as opap play (!) Ο OPAP in fact, he sent a list of these "gentlemen" by region of Greece, for approval to the President of the EEEP (which I mentioned above) putting the pistol on his head to pass it! When after a while Tsipras was forced to "resign" Varoufakis and place Tsakalotos in the position of Minister of Finance, they immediately changed the president of EEEP and put one at his suggestion. OPAP. Leaving the former (the honest) sent to the jackal a stick, with all the irregularities that had come to his notice and the latter the disappeared as if it never existed! This was the situation when he left cosmic , that's why his case had this end. Essentially the EEEP works as Appendix of OPAP! THERE IS NO ESSENTIAL CHECK ..... ALL CASES ARE "LOST" ON THE ROAD! That is why, sir cosmic, no one ever answered you!
For me who knows from the background is extremely paradoxical dot, where did this tax case arise (!!) Why is it happening now, where the LICENSES are being distributed (???) DO THEY WANT THIS EXACTLY (?) TO BE PREVENTED BY SOME KANOURGI (??) Knowing the power that o OPAP on background, ALL this seems to me a lot SUSPICIOUS!

I do not know if I coincide in time with what you say.
As you know, there is a supposedly justified period of months until these authorities answer you, so the months passed.
It was October 17 at Tsakalotos's office in Nikis when I went.
Previously, the EEEP told me something incomprehensible and I had agreed with them to ask the ministry whether in any case a sub-circular justified it.
And after I told them again "these are what Tsakalotos says", neither voice nor hearing.

Now the president of Vieltakia and the Xevieltakia who fit into this story do not
I know.
However, the last president from Syriza was from what I had read one of her
ASOEE, from the fanatics of the components. Now they have changed him.
 

cosmicsports

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The consumer ombudsman had a crunch.
As you know, these lawyers, if you make a report to them that is not correct, they immediately reject it and say to you "sir, it is not correct because the laws say so and juvetsi and stupetsi - ade bye".
But if there is an issue, they start examining it and it turns out that in any case a conclusion is reached - maybe again a rejection or they are right.
So mine was nowhere to be found.
Then another came out and said "you know he's deaf"!
In the end he wrote "I declare myself incompetent".
 

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The new rule works on a case by case basis as follows:

1st) Convenience player. Where will he find this katostari? If he finds a quadruple of 300-400 with a dievro or a score he will pay less tax than before.
2nd) Intermediate player who bets on a good odds of 15-20, predetermined or visible: Has the ability to make the break.
3rd) Chunky package. He can play a thousand at 1.50 and they will tax him. But he can also try to break it.

It is generally nonsense.
The toys are all rake.
From where and to where to be rake and beyond the rake?
 

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It was finally voted on. Whenever we move to phase B. Does anyone know what time is required from the moment that something is voted in the parliament of the useless to become a Government Gazette?
 

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The new rule works on a case by case basis as follows:

1st) Convenience player. Where will he find this katostari? If he finds a quadruple of 300-400 with a dievro or a score he will pay less tax than before.
2nd) Intermediate player who bets on a good odds of 15-20, predetermined or visible: Has the ability to make the break.
3rd) Chunky package. He can play a thousand at 1.50 and they will tax him. But he can also try to break it.

It is generally nonsense.
The toys are all rake.
From where and to where to be rake and beyond the rake?
I start in the morning and play 500 ari in odds 2 some matches and until the night I have put 39 bets. With tremendous luck (and infinite agony with a goal in 93 in my favor) I have reached 19 and I am going to put the 40o, an over 0.5 half time yield 2 and that and with the cap I put the ball enters. Joys and festivals

I think it 's enough for today I'm going to cash in with the agent and collect my tickets and get my profit of course, which mentally in my mind with what I have seen from what I have played I must be 500+ with the data that I knew (I wish I was) And what to see? For every 500 ari I won I get back 482.5 I have 20 won tickets with a tax of 17.5 each. So 17.5 X 20 = 350 euros tax. That is, I weigh all day to get some profit and finally what is left for me?
LOSS 350 euros

Do I feel lucky?

What did the Agent get out? 20 X 500 X 3% (before taxes) = 300 euros, ie approximately 250 euros after taxes.
That is, I gambled all day to fill the ass of the state with money and the bar of the Agent who makes his collector OPAP . If I had stopped at 39 bets I would have gotten in with the punches.

Shame things I think. I'm not going to a bookstore from tomorrow to sell him a tacho service that I have my own players from below and to collect my profit in full and if I happen to lose I can ask him for a 20-30% return on losses to smooth a little the pain of my loss? If Tespa does not give it to me, I will not have any horns to take my profits.
This is what I will do. Will go.

But in this way what will they achieve?

To expel the big players from the agency bet. Because as cosmic says, the little players will not be affected. But the big players who know how important it is instead of 2 odds to actually play at 1.982 will leave them. And who will lose from this?
The agent the 250 euros and the OPAP which he has profits from the big players (because I do not think that there can be anyone who believes that he can win the book with a rake of 11-13%. OPAP Was he not a helper of the teams until today, either as an advertising sponsor or that part of the profits he had went to the bodies for financial support or am I wrong? That is, they must be taken from the player who is already eating rake;

Or maybe this bill hides its own pressure OPAP for tax relief behind the backs of internet companies and at their expense (with an agreement they have concealed) in order to make licensing less attractive and to strengthen the monopoly;

For the end I kept a question for the cunning ones who legislate: Why in the bill you describe with specific numbers what will be the tax of the players in proportion to their profits and for the disposal of this money they simply state: .... Percentage of income from the above tax category is used to finance sports teams following a joint decision of the Ministers of Finance and Culture and Sports ....
1. What is the percentage that will go to the teams? Why don't they mention it?
2. And the remaining percentage to whose pocket will it go?
3.Maybe to lighten the pocket of Melissannidis or any of its shareholders OPAP SA and from there will be covered part of the tax that the organization must pay to the tax office;

The percentages they will get from the players are announced. What are they going to share with the abbot teams? I find them very transparent
 

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