I had the impression that the worst betting company is Goalbet,
but betrebels probably overcomes it.
I had no intention of going public and writing about what has become of me and these last weeks, but kardas1980 got me hooked on what he wrote.
it looks like they have been lying there professionally.
the story is the six.
take some of the bonuses promising in December. as much as i lost everything. just like in the recent bonus i won 600+ euros and I asked for a withdrawal, they canceled it without informing me. I found out that it took 1-2 days and I logged in to see what was going on.
I was told that I had to send a tax return, or other receipts (payroll etc). they have been told by mga and money laundering law that they do not want to hurt their customers. lie number 1 was that.
I inform them that my mother is a graduate of law in Athens and that we are well aware of the laws, and that they have attempted to violate personal data, etc., and ask them to show me the law they relied on, and give them a few hours to give me otherwise I would have resorted to e cogra and where we judged it appropriate.
because they realized that they had nothing to do with any irrelevant little kid, they put me the money within 1-2 hours, but they closed my account, and after the second email I was looking for the law they cited, they sent me the 2-page anti-money laundering directive. MGA revenue (AML directive, anti money laundering)
and with their well-known rude style, before I even manage to read even 1 page or reply to them, they send me an email again after 1-2 hours, which contained a screenshot with cumulative amounts with my deposits and withdrawals, and the difference between them, without specifying their time period, and in short they tell me "now that you have read the law, look at your deposits and withdrawals, and send us the paper we ask for" (this was not exactly their 2nd lie, it was not exactly lie, it was an attempt at deception. this is the correct expression. you will understand below why).
I answer when I have time that I and my legal representatives will read it, and if they think I am obliged to send a document, I will do it. otherwise I will take legal action against them. they avoid answering what time period concerns the screenshot of the transactions they showed me. I ask again and then they answer "from the day you registered but it does not matter".
we are reading the directive in the following days, and the zoom of this directive for those who are bored to read all 37 pages or do not know good english, is out.
if a user makes deposits over 2000 euros within 180 days (threshold set by the MGA), there may be a chance of flushing. depending on his playing profile (if he was lauded 5-10 euros ago and suddenly started playing a thousand), and by the deposit modification (eg banking, debit card etc that are directly linked to tax offices and banks and so on and so forth) related to money laundering since these moneys already exist in the banks, so they are justified, on the other hand the banks themselves are responsible for carrying out checks, and therefore when you open an account, you were required to pay a check and confirm it's a lot higher risk for debit card laundering).
So depending on how many deposits someone has made, and their modifications and the possible radical reversal of their gaming profile, mga would (without forcing) their bets ask for cash or payroll etc, just like banks one exceeds the 2000 euro threshold (let alone if it is exceeded permanently and even more so), if he or she continues to lose a large percentage of huge deposits and continues to play, if he deposits in cash or similar suspects etc.
fact 1. I have never exceeded the 2000 euro deposit limit of 180 days at no time at betrebels.
here's the lie number 1. that mga apparently made them ask for the papers. while this is not necessary. just a recommendation for cases over 2000 euros every 180 days or more, and you obviously won't go checking on someone who plays like me every year, even if I did it once, THAT I REALLY NEVER NEED.
fact 2. the misleading screenshot with the total amount of deposit withdrawals (which initially avoided telling me what time zone it was for), was out. wholesale deposits 4800 euros, withdrawals 4200 euros, hence the rash 600 euros (registered one early 2017, so 30+ months ago). here is what i wrote above that was not exactly a lie but an attempt to deceive me.
after the email with the directive that I had to ask 2 times to be sent to me, as I wrote above they sent me (obviously in a state of panic) and 2nd consecutive email (hoping that I do not read the directive in detail and that I will just see the 2000 euros he puts as a threshold, as if I did not read that it concerns a time period of 180 days), showing me a misleading screenshot with a total amount of my deposits 4800+, WITHOUT CLARIFYING WHICH PERIOD CONCERNS, obviously want days, which is why it was accompanied by the prompt "now that you have read the law, look at the deposits (meaning that I have exceeded the mga limit) and send the papers".
of course after the second time I asked in a hurry they replied that it was for my total transactions from the day I registered. at the same time I checked all the financial instruments I used for deposits on them and found that they never exceeded the 2 euro threshold set by mga.
fact 3. 4800 euro deposits in 30+ months = 150 euro deposits on average per month. so what to do? 150 euros a month; and having some black income of 150 euros a month, the amount is funny. will use them in product markets, and will not have to deal with online betting.
also 600 euro rash in 30+ months = 20 euro average rash a month.
so what does the clearinghouse etc want? to see where I find this huge amount of 20 euros a month I lose on average and continue to play (one of the other money being simply recycled from betrebels own withdrawals) ????
fact 4. half of my deposits over the past 3 years have been with a debit card / viva wallet that is connected to my foam and goes to my tax office, so it's very low risk for rinsing according to the MGA, and others Half with paysafe pins, yes they are bought in cash, higher risk against mega but again we are talking about nonsense amounts to 3 years playing at betrebels and of course never more than 2000 euros per 180 days.
Obviously I'm crazy after studying the directive. as I realize that they lied using the MGA name, and they tried to fool me with misleading information, and they also accuse me of being a terrorist or drug dealer.
I ask them to confirm in writing that I have never exceeded 2000 euros per 180 days set by mga as a threshold to be considered as a potential suspect for rinsing so that I can proceed with all actions to restore legal order and restore and the reputation of my family and myself.
for 2 days they are not answering anything, obviously heck to see how to justify the unjustified. afterwards (the very people who checked that mga and their law required me to ask for clearance etc and that they didn't want to bother customers and that it was a purely formal matter and that they wouldn't blame me for any money laundering etc) they say that under their (apparently illegal and abusive) terms they have the right to ask for any document they want (so theoretically they may ask us to send up to half-naked photo where to hold it with ID in hand in ALASKA 3) that they are right but to close any account they want at any time.
that is, from where they said "no we, MGA is to blame", then they said "yes we ask for it".
nor our politicians such a cobbler (columba in modern greek). THE CONCLUSION IS YOURS TO MAKE.
For my part, the case has now taken the legal route.
PS I don't send my payroll or my paycheck not because I have something to hide, but because I don't like to lie, insult me as criminals, belittle my intelligence and violate my personal data. Moreover, in cases where I have requested earnings certifications from other companies, I know that I need to send corresponding papers I have done so.