Explanation of new taxation with an example from OPAP

tarantules

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OPAP has put one on its page example taxation with the new regulations, which is difficult to understand and I wanted if anyone has the kindness to explain the reasoning to me because it has confused me.
So it gives the example of a won KINO ticket of 10 € that wins a total of 1.000 €, so the net profit is 1.000 - 10 = 990 €.
The first says 100 € are not taxed. All is well so far.
There are another € 890 left which should be in the last tax scale, ie from € 500,01 to € 990 with 7,5% tax and based on what I understand someone would have to pay a total tax of € 66,75.
Instead, as you will see in the example in the link I have put, it breaks the amounts into arbitrary numbers (100 € with 2,5%, 300 € with 5% and 490 € with 7,5%).
I wonder for hours if I really am such a fool and I do not take the letters : ROFLMAO:
Anyone can enlighten us with what criteria this distribution of amounts is made. I want to make in excel a formula that automatically shows me the tax that will be kept so that I can see what is in my interest.
 
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defectus

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No, in my opinion, you tax the 890E directly (since the first 100 are not taxed) with 7.5% since it belongs to the 3rd scale and comes out at 66.75 (ie 6.7% of our net profit.
Their own reasoning breaks the initial amount into sub-amounts and taxes them accordingly, categorizing them according to the scale to which they belong.

In this case in their example 990 breaks:

initially at 0-100E that is not taxed (our sweets gave him the tax here, how good)
later to 100.01-200E which is taxed at 2.5% (ie 2.5E)
later at 200.01-500E which is taxed at 5% (ie 15E)
end at 500.01-990E which is taxed at 7.5% (ie 7.5% X the remaining 490 euros = 36.75 E)

Total taxes = 54.25E (ie 5.4% of our profit)

Triple taxation, ie to the one who managed and WON in (Kl) OPAP.
You win-you lose, you will lose sir.

Again, of course, because if they had you in charge, I see you taking more from us :p (I'm joking not to be misunderstood).
 
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cosmicsports

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The bet told me that the tax is applied progressively and that breaking does not matter.
Klopp I do not know, I will look at the example.
At first glance it is a bit better than before I think but it definitely weighs in on the "big profits".
That is, someone who plays a carbine for high returns eats tax.

This tax is of course completely unfair.
We pay, by rake:

- the provider
- the rights of the sports federations (s.s. 7% is that at the racetrack I think)
- the agents if we play OPAP (6-8%).
- various lower fees

What else ;
In 2010, when "betting tax" was introduced for the first time and was discussed a bit on TV, these basics forbade us to say it with a bat. On the one hand we ate door to door TV,
on the other hand some journalists who took part in the panels told them "sit carefully if you want to continue to be a journalist".
 

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For so many years when my Uncle had Opap, you acted like unmarried chicks, not the odds, so not the limits, not one, not the other. Now bite a tiger and sit on your eggs. It will even take your underpants. You will say bone and you will cry : paidi:
 

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At the moment, many people who make money in online companies are crying and not only do they not pay them but they limit them or close their accounts.
A month ago I saw and got a certificate of profits from stoiximan. I had to complain to them to give it to me. And we are not talking about any crazy amount. All the shops are tragic but at least in OPAP you get paid. This can not be to challenge.
 
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defectus

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Here the tarantulas are right.

Three things can not be disputed in (kl) OPAP.
1. The complete anonymity it provides to whoever bets (and the
strong bettors understand and appreciate this great privilege)
2. The "unlimited" (in relation to the other books) amounts allowed
even in Russian football matches to bet via voucher (extra anonymity)
3. Whatever the paper writes you will be paid without much - much. It hurts them, the amount does not hurt them, they like it and they like it, they will give it to you. You will also get the certificate of profit and you left for the following gentleman.

Now for the disadvantages of (Kl) OPAP I want a case file to include them all accurately. (I would say go for privatization / "sell as much as" for a start, but I was overtaken by our good rulers who sold it far below its value years ago).
 

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For so many years when my Uncle had Opap, you acted like unmarried chicks, not the odds, so not the limits, not one, not the other. Now bite a tiger and sit on your eggs. It will even take your underpants. You will say bone and you will cry : paidi:


Words by Retsina Kourtaki.
Why ; Who said trigro-klop would be better than sulfur-klop?
 

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With the new tax, I am curious if OPAP continues to "pull" extra tax on foreign horse racing.
With the old tax we lost the case, since no one in charge answered.
On October 19, I had made an appointment with AADE to investigate the case but events happened ...
Death of a relative in England - I went to England for the funeral and stayed a month and a half. As soon as I came back I got sick and then we had lockdowns due to the pandemic.
The law finally changed last month.

Anyone who has contact with the foreign race betting OPAP let us know.
Does he put the regular tax now or again with a hat?
 

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