I'm asking for a partner

[djroof]

Answer: I request a partner

Since I've read in previous posts you make a business mistake!

Why are you "crazy" to show it and "push" it to betting companies ??? Business is business, just things. You need to open horizons and look for ordinary investors, or "angels" or whatever else can put in and make money. So do not burn too much with the companies where they themselves work on platforms built by software companies, statistics, etc. It is like looking for a buyer from resellers you have to go to the source and not the "merchants".

These few of me and good luck!

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

The most important reason I prefer existing companies (either betting or software) is the ready-made know-how and especially the ready-made clientele. A simple sale idea to 365 or to the company that makes its software can earn the same profits in a year, from building a company from scratch, creating software, licensing, hiring people to get it commitments to confidentiality contracts, and after you have prepared the product, hobbling it on the market, paying advertising, gathering people, making your turnovers, and seeing the first profits after taxes and operating expenses. And all this with the danger of your idea copying at the same time from someone who has not committed to you with a confidentiality clause,
You are likely to do more if you simply sell the idea to a company with a clientele of millions of customers, and ready turnovers with some clicks away from where they are used to.
My point is that I have not yet been able to find a lawyer, who is the most important ally in such a move, to bend over the project and know little about the area and what it is about. The classic lawyers in the market, whether you are talking about it, or about a strange book you wrote or a painting you've been painting, are seeing it all legally. And the only thing they see is that they are paid to the page, not an opportunity to treasure them all their lives. Only one who knows by bet can imagine how much the idea will catch if it falls on the market to understand what it is ...

 

[djroof]

Answer: I request a partner

I do not want to disappoint you but there are 2 things you need to know ... The first is that, it has to do with gambling, it is still very complicated here, because there are new laws and generally a fluid environment. The second is that maybe what you have in mind and you have "built" and you have an enthusiasm etc in the end is not something worthwhile, or something that will not be profitable (so a lot of effort) or something that does not "stand" legally. I do not know what it is so I can not answer you, we just sometimes have to not get carried away by the excitement of something. I know many cases where they had made it all well in mind but this something "broke" it all. Search alone with a lot of reading because no lawyer will sit down to deal with such a thing and especially when you write it will solve the problem of his life, etc. Let these times be shown ... until then study, search and start alone with your own resources and the proposal will come by itself if it is something innovative!

They all want plan and organization.

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

Have you lowered your idea?

You can go to a company to see it and say we do not want it.
Whenever someone can sell it to another company or put it on
his own with some variations.

 

[Neat Monster]

Answer: I request a partner

Well, I talked to one of my friends on this topic yesterday, and I put some of his views here with a reservation.

An idea as an idea is useless, the whole success is in its implementation and the know-how you will have.
Also, your idea can not be patented in any way and you can be 100% sure. First of all, forget the idea of ​​patenting a "global patent", because it will take you a long time and it is a long and time consuming process, perhaps impossible, and Finally, in general, the patenting and registration of your idea will cost a lot, and it is not free. .... etc etc. So from there you are exposed, and as I told you, patenting globally is something very difficult.

Generally, in 2015 the idea has no absolute foreclosure! You are exposed and you do.

I remember in your previous message you thought about presenting your idea with the presence of a notary attorney and representatives of 1 or more companies and accepting offers etc etc and that because you will present yourself to the idea on this date with a lawyer you thought that your idea would be safeguarded. I'm telling you I'm not going to do it.

They happily steal the idea and present it as theirs and claim that they thought 10 days before you appeared.

You have 2 options:

1) you go with a sample of your idea implemented to whomever you want. bonuses for the awesome idea you have.

2) you are financially devoted entirely and from zero you take advantage of your idea ONLY.

These in general, the scenario to present your "awesome" idea and to be bought by someone with 6 digits and the whole implementation to be done by the company you will work with and you will get a lot of money for your idea and that alone in the context of science fiction .... forget it!

I say good-bye to all of them and with all reservations, although the person who brought me this opinion knows very well what happens today.

For now my time is limited at this time if I remember something to add it to the evening.

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

Have you lowered your idea?

You can go to a company to see it and say we do not want it.
Whenever someone can sell it to another company or put it on
his own with some variations.

You know exactly the problem.
It is a matter of intellectual property, and when it comes to ideas about the global market (with headquarters, eg Gibraltar, etc), panic ...
From the point of view of patents, I have exhausted every action that passed by my hand ...

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

Well, I talked to one of my friends on this topic yesterday, and I put some of his views here with a reservation.

An idea as an idea is useless, the whole success is in its implementation and the know-how you will have.
Also, your idea can not be patented in any way and you can be 100% sure. First of all, forget the idea of ​​patenting a "global patent", because it will take you a long time and it is a long and time consuming process, perhaps impossible, and Finally, in general, the patenting and registration of your idea will cost a lot, and it is not free. .... etc etc. So from there you are exposed, and as I told you, patenting globally is something very difficult.

Generally, in 2015 the idea has no absolute foreclosure! You are exposed and you do.

I remember in your previous message you thought about presenting your idea with the presence of a notary attorney and representatives of 1 or more companies and accepting offers etc etc and that because you will present yourself to the idea on this date with a lawyer you thought that your idea would be safeguarded. I'm telling you I'm not going to do it.

They happily steal the idea and present it as theirs and claim that they thought 10 days before you appeared.

You have 2 options:

1) you go with a sample of your idea implemented to whomever you want. bonuses for the awesome idea you have.

2) you are financially devoted entirely and from zero you take advantage of your idea ONLY.

These in general, the scenario to present your "awesome" idea and to be bought by someone with 6 digits and the whole implementation to be done by the company you will work with and you will get a lot of money for your idea and that alone in the context of science fiction .... forget it!

I say good-bye to all of them and with all reservations, although the person who brought me this opinion knows very well what happens today.

For now my time is limited at this time if I remember something to add it to the evening.

Describe exactly how the situation is

Everything you said is right

Except for 1-2 details that can change the whole scene ...

Also, when you see that for two years you have captured the idea and have it at least calendarically registered, that it has never been applied by any company on the planet, it is a little difficult to convince the judge that he thought of the idea before you , with tangible data ...
It is easy to conclude that you were the original initiator and stole it from your negotiation process ... And there you need a good lawyer ... That's why I'm looking for a site, I did not recall the issue accidentally from the forum drawers ...

Thank you all for your ideas and opinions ...
And see the issue as if it is about everyone. Anyone can have an idea tomorrow about betting, the internet, or anything else, especially at this time with the explosion of the internet ...

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

I have some ideas for a construction project.
I had the same problem (and patented to make-down) is not over
to be exposed.
Whenever I needed to see what conversion I needed to do to get rid of it all
whatever you say. It has been a year since I covered the voids (as they were naturally)
the way it was presented to some programmer ... but it was for personal use and not for sale, but the reasoning remains the same.

In a few words .... do some molds .... tell the cells where it was KENA and I was doing in the same way the data that I want and what processing do I want to do.

What I just want to say as an opinion and not as a multi-person.

You can show the results without showing the way

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

It is easy to conclude that you were the original initiator

Here I will disagree .... only if you downgrade applies what you say.

So if I go into your house and steal your idea and show it somehow that you will prove that you are original inspiration;

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

Here I will disagree .... only if you downgrade applies what you say.

So if I go into your house and steal your idea and show it somehow that you will prove that you are original inspiration;

A multi-page copy has been deposited with a notary describing the idea.
Will you find a way to prove that you had thought of it earlier?

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

A multi-page copy has been deposited with a notary describing the idea.
Will you find a way to prove that you had thought of it earlier?

You will describe ... first of all - they know

If we were to go to a notary, the patent deferral would not take place.

If he leaves outside of Greece what are you doing?

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

You will describe ... first of all - they know

If we were to go to a notary, the patent deferral would not take place.

If he leaves outside of Greece what are you doing?

The patent is another form of enforcing. Also not applicable in other countries
You have to guarantee in every country in Europe, America, etc to eat cannabis 200.000 and a few I said again can be copied to one of the ... islands Cayman ...
Generally speaking, they are uncomfortable with the issue.
So you take it from the end to the beginning and start with what arguments will be brought to court from both sides ...
Again, in good law, we end up ...
It's all about making things like that, a normal judge will give you the right. Covered 100% will never be. Let it be that if you get involved with small companies, the other may admit that you owe the other day ... to declare bankruptcy ...

If you googlareis "idea theft" and you see what cases reach the courts, you will understand what it is about and how thin the limits are ...

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

No ANSWER what do you do if someone gives it to another country outside of Greece?
Speak to Greece only!

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

Look at what you write in your first post

archer100
as well as patent and copyright

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

No ANSWER what do you do if someone gives it to another country outside of Greece?
Speak to Greece only!

There you are losing ...
Basically, there is a recent regulation which says that if a patent is registered in one country, priority will automatically be given to the right to be registered in other countries (but not all countries are involved in this agreement)
In general, it is a waste of trials of this kind, especially through large software companies,

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

Example

If you have found an algorithm before 10 year and you have filed it with a notary

And a student today finds the same or similar but expects the same results.

What will happen to you?

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

Look at what you write in your first post

I had written it to the authorities before I figure out what is playing with all these meanings. Now I have a full picture and I have done everything that goes by my hand ...

 

[archer100]

Answer: I request a partner

Example

If you have found an algorithm before 10 year and you have filed it with a notary

And a student today finds the same or similar but expects the same results.

What will happen to you?

Every trial is a form of investment
If you believe that the probability of X winning the A amount is greater than your cost, then in economic terms you have to go to court
If the algorithm is the one on which the new generation of mobiles is based, and you have the probability that 5% will be compensated by samsung 10.000.000 € and your lawyer will ask for zero costs and 25% of the amount of compensation, then you are going to court.
The essence of the case is not so meaningful (mainly about X) as it is not white-black ...

Essentially and to close it: You are never sure 100%. Always have a chance. Do your best to be more likely to convince judges that you have been wronged by law, originality, morality, fraud, theft, insolvency, lost profits, non-respect of contract terms, property rights, etc.
The amount that the judges can reasonably charge and pay the opposite party for the possibility of being charged is the expected benefit of the investment. The bigger the chance, the more likely it is to be paid by the companies, without going to trial, as this will be the disincentive to them (if they know they will win you in court, they simply will not pay you).
All you can do is maximize the probability.
That's why A and Z are a good lawyer who, even with a simple two-line term in a contract, can determine the whole game

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

Every trial is a form of investment
If you believe that the probability of X winning the A amount is greater than your cost, then in economic terms you have to go to court
If the algorithm is the one on which the new generation of mobiles is based, and you have the probability that 5% will be compensated by samsung 10.000.000 € and your lawyer will ask for zero costs and 25% of the amount of compensation, then you are going to court.
The essence of the case is not so meaningful (mainly about X) as it is not white-black ...

The same goes for the student ..... if you miss what you are doing?

 

[stxma]

Answer: I request a partner

archer100
I thought I'd get in touch with big companies right now, but the risk is great because I can eat easily after my presentation (edit: I've already done it)

If I understand well you already have some PRESENTATION;

archer100
(edit: I've already done it)