Gambling winnings

[goal2]

Good evening guys, I had some profits for the year 18, but I also made many deposits that in monetary amounts are greater than the profits I had. He was surprised by the purchases I have made through cards, ie the deposits in companies, which exceed well enough of the declared income. So the problem is the purchases I have made through the cards.I will ask for a profit certificate but they do not write their VAT number, is there a problem?Does anyone know the details and if I will have a problem in this case?

There is no problem..What many people believe that the VAT number of the betting company should be written, the certificate that you will receive, is not valid.
The certificate must state the VAT number of yours and your details. From there, the betting company will write in the document its title as a company (of its license) it will have a signature and a stamp.
Also what is written about the amount you will declare is not standard.
Others write deposits-withdrawals, for example you deposited 10k and made withdrawals 20k so your accountant will spend 10 net.
Others only mention your turnover, for example you bet 10k and won 20.
Others report only the net profit of your account.
Anyway, you do not care what the certificate will say. All you have to do is send the documents that the betting company will ask for so that it can issue you the certificate.

 

[goal2]

Also, the player is not interested in the solidarity contribution of 2.2% etc if someone wants to declare how much more than the tax-free amount of 12000 €. The player does not pay anything, not even 1 euro if, for example, he declares a net profit of 20 or 30 thousand

 

[chri213]

There is no problem..What many people believe that the VAT number of the betting company should be written, the certificate that you will receive, is not valid.
The certificate must state the VAT number of yours and your details. From there, the betting company will write in the document its title as a company (of its license) it will have a signature and a stamp.
Also what is written about the amount you will declare is not standard.
Others write deposits-withdrawals, for example you deposited 10k and made withdrawals 20k so your accountant will spend 10 net.
Others only mention your turnover, for example you bet 10k and won 20.
Others report only the net profit of your account.
Anyway, you do not care what the certificate will say. All you have to do is send the documents that the betting company will ask for so that it can issue you the certificate.

Thanks my friend for the answer. The only issue that interests me and can create a problem is that my income is very different from purchases with debit, on a scale eg 3k income-11k expenses. In parts the certificates will I think they cover things up a bit, but as far as I know, in the worst case, they call me to apologize, I tell them my moves and that's it. prison'' .

 

[goal2]

Thanks my friend for the answer. The only issue that interests me and can create a problem is that my income is very different from purchases with debit, on a scale eg 3k income-11k expenses. In parts the certificates will I think they cover things up a bit, but as far as I know, in the worst case, they call me to apologize, I tell them my moves and that's it. prison'' .

If he told you this seriously, I think he is exaggerating. With 3k income and 11k expenses you are at -8k that you will have to justify. If it is allowed, how many cases can you justify through certificates? If, for example, you can collect 4 k from certificates, then you go to -4k, which you will have to justify. they will deal and you will just pay something for the 4k.
The only thing I can tell you for sure is that there is an alternative, for example your parents to say that they gave you 4k. This is exactly what my accountant told me a year ago about such an amount that you mention. But then I told him that he would not need it since I will bring him certificates of profit.

 

[chri213]

If he told you this seriously, I think he is exaggerating. With 3k income and 11k expenses you are at -8k which you will have to justify.If allowed, how many cases can you justify through certificates? If, for example, you can collect 4 k from certificates, then you go to -4k, which you will have to justify. they will deal and you will just pay something for the 4k.
The only thing I can tell you for sure is that there is an alternative, for example your parents to say that they gave you 4k. This is exactly what my accountant told me a year ago about such an amount that you mention. But then I told him that he would not need it since I will bring him certificates of profit.

With certificates up to 8k I cover, but logically they will put a smaller number in the certificates.

 

[goal2]

With certificates up to 8k I cover, but logically they will put a smaller number in the certificates.

With certificates up to 8k I cover, but logically they will put a smaller number in the certificates.

They do not put a smaller number. They will write you what you won. Even if it is the 8k net profit from a single company, it will write you 8k net profit in the certificate. In 2019 from very small companies I got 10k from a certificate from two other 8k in one and 7k in the other. Exactly how much my history came out as a net profit. For larger amounts such as 30k in a single company I do not know what they do.
Only my bettor has written less, and there was a reason for them to do so. Because they did not count the winnings from missions with the excuse that the bet amount was free. (In the others I said above I had never received bonus offers)

 

[chri213]

They do not put a smaller number. They will write you what you won. Even if it is the 8k net profit from a single company, it will write you 8k net profit in the certificate. In 2019 from very small companies I got 10k from a certificate from two other 8k in one and 7k in the other. Exactly how much my history came out as a net profit. For larger amounts such as 30k in a single company I do not know what they do.
Only my bettor has written less, and there was a reason for them to do so. Because they did not count the winnings from missions with the excuse that the amount of the bet was free.(in the others I said above I had never received bonuses-offers)

I have heard this about the bettor, I do not use offers and missions, so normally they will have to make the right profit.

 

[tns]

I also have some profit. But because I use Skrill for deposits and withdrawals and confirmation to take logically I can not declare them because nothing appears in my bank account. Is not that right? If so, I can deposit the amount from Skrill in my bank account and declare them;

 

[JordanRules]

I also have some profit. But because I use Skrill for deposits and withdrawals and confirmation to take logically I can not declare them because nothing appears in my bank account. Is not that right? If so, I can deposit the amount from Skrill in my bank account and declare them;

there is secrecy of transactions.

they do not know and should not know where you have stored your winnings.

you can normally request a profit certificate

 

[chri213]

There is no problem..What many people believe that the VAT number of the betting company should be written, the certificate that you will receive, is not valid.
The certificate must state the VAT number of yours and your details. From there, the betting company will write in the document its title as a company (of its license) it will have a signature and a stamp.
Also what is written about the amount you will declare is not standard.
Others write deposits-withdrawals, for example you deposited 10k and made withdrawals 20k so your accountant will spend 10 net.
Others only mention your turnover, for example you bet 10k and won 20.
Others report only the net profit of your account.
Anyway, you do not care what the certificate will say. All you have to do is send the documents that the betting company will ask for so that it can issue you the certificate.

Well my friend, one of my certificates came, but it also states the turnover of the total amount I bet, which amount is huge, because I generally bet a large number of bets and it does not reflect the truth of the money I deposited in the company. scare me with this turnover I have made.
To make what I say more understandable. For example, I deposit 2000 euros and play only one at odds of 1.15. I win net 300 euros. I do this two more times with the same odds and money, and I have a net profit totaling 900 euros. But in the certificate they will write a total amount that I played 6000 euros, and a total amount that I won 6900 euros, while I have made a deposit of only 2000 euros and I have won 900. Is not this a problem?

 

[FunBet]

Well my friend, one of my certificates came, but it also states the turnover of the total amount I bet, which amount is huge, because I generally bet a large number of bets and it does not reflect the truth of the money I deposited in the company. scare me with this turnover I have made.
To make what I say more understandable. For example, I deposit 2000 euros and play only one at odds of 1.15. I win net 300 euros. I do this two more times with the same odds and money, and I have a net profit totaling 900 euros. But in the certificate they will write a total amount that I played 6000 euros, and a total amount that I won 6900 euros, while I have made a deposit of only 2000 euros and I have won 900. Is not this a problem?

No, it is not a problem. The turnover has nothing to do with the total amount you deposited in a bet. You (and the tax office) are only interested in the amount you have deposited in your betting and your net profit. Nothing more.

 

[goal2]

Well my friend, one of my certificates came, but it also states the turnover of the total amount I bet, which amount is huge, because I generally bet a large number of bets and it does not reflect the truth of the money I deposited in the company. scare me with this turnover I have made.
To make what I say more understandable. For example, I deposit 2000 euros and play only one at odds of 1.15. I win net 300 euros. I do this two more times with the same odds and money, and I have a net profit totaling 900 euros. But in the certificate they will write a total amount that I played 6000 euros, and a total amount that I won 6900 euros, while I have made a deposit of only 2000 euros and I have won 900. Is not this a problem?

No, it's not a problem. Nor are they going to call you. 1000k having a turnover of 2 thousand.
All I do is go to an accountant, and sit there when he makes it. I explain to the accountant that only these 34.000 € must be declared and everything complete.

 

[Grim Reaper]

There is no issue, and some years ago, when the internet OPAP was still in its infancy, I had a turnover of about 63000. The profits were only 11-12000. The accountant writes the profit, not the turnover and deposits, etc. You have the confirmation for any audit that needs to be done. (Now I do not make a turnover because I have eaten a limit on what accounts I had from time to time)

 

[kerkireos]

I also asked for a certificate of winnings from stoiximan and bet365.
The first one informed me that I had no profits in 2018 the second one asked me for a settlement note and tax information ....

I will not bother anymore ...

 

[chri213]

All this is one more reason that discourages me to continue to "play" more seriously. It is not possible for any move, even the simplest, to be accountable. type wallets skrill, maybe with these things are simpler.

 

[Grim Reaper]

You must send the receipt to make the intersection of the TIN and the address of residence. However, OPAP does not request tax information.

 

[Spyros21]

I would like to know if there is anyone in the forum who stated, for example, a 5-digit number of profits and then the tax office called him to tell us about his experience.

 

[stpsilan]

I would like to know if there is anyone in the forum who stated, for example, a 5-digit number of profits and then the tax office called him to tell us about his experience.

The tax office does not invite freelancers who declare 0 income and live in villas, they will call someone who simply declared a 5-digit profit from gambling;
I can not believe it, it is equivalent to a miracle I think

 

[JordanRules]

I would like to know if there is anyone in the forum who stated, for example, a 5-digit number of profits and then the tax office called him to tell us about his experience.

I THINK that goal2 had declared a 5-digit number and nothing had happened

 

[goal2]

Depending on how much one states what else states what assets he has, etc. Questions concerning an accountant and not a forum. If you declare 20k again and you have also bought a Porsche with 30k, does it not make sense that the case is not the same?