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Kavajim

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I don't know what happened, but now I go to the article and it doesn't open to me ...
I'll try a little old sorry

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Anyway here to say, they had the original article and within a few hours they had it all out on the site ...

If it's not a technical mistake, one can talk about black journalism ... I'm not going to be surprised but I'm just saying

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Yes i read it grace. I think it's from the foreground ... And the guy came out in his statements yesterday saying, we're okay with 100.000-200.000 dead.

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20 million people and a total of 153 cases and 2 dead and is next to them or China where the virus originated.
I will take them into consideration and not what you said.

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Some of my questions and thoughts.
-If you send sms to 13033, aren't you sick?
-Do bank cards have technologies with alcohol that directly kills covid-19?
-Do employees of tolls have such technologies?
-This idiot who cut a fine of € 150 to a star (because he was not at home) should they have taken him down directly because with so much stupidity he is probably really dangerous?
-Those who believe that there is no mockery (since they do not "see" him) normally should not believe that there is no mind in their head;
-All those who drive a car alone, why did they wear a mask? Are they afraid the covid-19 will pass through the airway?
-All those who drive a motorcycle and wore a mask but did not wear a helmet, what exactly do they protect?
-The president of the pharmacists who stated that the prices of antiseptic masks, etc. went up because the companies raised the prices, did he forget to say that they also found the same opportunities to make multiple profits?
-The Minister (Adonis) initially stated that the request quote is valid, yesterday I saw something that says that it will not allow the disgrace and advised the people if they see high prices in a store not to shop and go elsewhere, and something like that pipes How will this be possible if the measures become stricter in the coming days and a "timer" is inserted and what exactly does it do to prevent black marketers?
-I'm still waiting to hear bells ring in black market, but so far I've only heard of barbarians and cobblers. (I'm not sure, but I can be wrong)
-Currently there is opposition;
-Since when is a doctor's opinion wrong?
-Something I read yesterday about gallops that give a lot ahead of ND and the trust of the people in Koulis. There is a bet to have it in its coupon to play 1 half 2 final because something tells me that in 2-4 months the money will end up in more people will become "upside down".
-I'm thinking of a possible reversal not with Alexis 2 final but with "oxo and the 300"
-Because the police channels constantly show that they were wearing glove masks, etc. Once I went to check these days, they didn't even check me if I sent an sms and they made my car gender and feather even a closet-baggy baggy bag, without without keeping their distance.
-I am the only one who believes that "they found a priest, let them bury 5-6" and some things will "become our habit";
-Why have they deified Tsiodra and talked about a savior who took quick measures etc? For weeks, they saw February and the beginning of March, what happened with cases in Ilia and Achaia, and the cafes closed about 3 weeks after the first cases.

PS In Hungary, however, the organs have already begun.
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For me, whether with herd immunity or "staying home", the evil has already happened. And I'm not just talking about Greece. I'm not just talking about a corona because there will be other causes of death, from starvation to suicide, etc.
Ok, the most probable thing is that with a herd of herds, the evil would be greater, but now I consider it a joke for some scientists and politicians to come out and present themselves as heroes and rescuers. They followed and acted accordingly in January when the WHO announced that nothing was going on, and in March when they talked about pandemics. Maybe we were lucky, because when on March 12, when the WHO talked about pandemics, there were few the cases in Greece. Let me remind you that before March 12 in Italy, many thousands of cases and 100 deaths were counted, and in Greece the only measures they had taken were to close a few days before school, and not to make carnivals. No other measure if I remember correctly.
For me, rescuers would be if they closed borders and relocated from the beginning, when the virus was only found in China. They did not dare to do so for financial reasons, they failed and closed them much later when the evil had already become worse and worse with human losses. and with worse economic consequences that most of us will realize when the nightmare is over.
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For me, whether with herd immunity or "staying home", the evil has already happened. And I'm not just talking about Greece. I'm not just talking about a corona because there will be other causes of death, from starvation to suicide, etc.
Ok, the most probable thing is that with a herd of herds, the evil would be greater, but now I consider it a joke for some scientists and politicians to come out and present themselves as heroes and rescuers. They followed and acted accordingly in January when the WHO announced that nothing was going on, and in March when they talked about pandemics. Maybe we were lucky, because when on March 12, when the WHO talked about pandemics, there were few the cases in Greece. Let me remind you that before March 12 in Italy, many thousands of cases and 100 deaths were counted, and in Greece the only measures they had taken were to close a few days before school, and not to make carnivals. No other measure if I remember correctly.
For me, rescuers would be if they closed borders and relocated from the beginning, when the virus was only found in China. They did not dare to do so for financial reasons, they failed and closed them much later when the evil had already become worse and worse with human losses. and with worse economic consequences that most of us will realize when the nightmare is over.
But friend Tigres says the virus has a 0,3 mortality rate, and only the elderly can quarantine it, and we've solved that problem.

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But friend Tigres says the virus has a 0,3 mortality rate, and only the elderly can quarantine it, and we've solved that problem.
There will always be different views, we can't all agree. I wrote what I think would be the solution to my previous comment, with a global closure of border-movements from January so that only the virus remains in China, and that now It is too late for them to do so. If this had happened, it would have been more probable that all countries except China would have suffered losses for a few months only in the economy. Now they will measure much greater losses in the economy + human losses.

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Good evening to all.
I kept saying I wouldn't write, I wouldn't write but tigres you're tired ...

The old people know me. The younger ones do not.
Well, from the data we know AS TIME. And I'm addressing everyone.

This viral infection is highly contagious and differentiates it from influenza and other infections. My opinion, as a doctor, without becoming an epidemiologist, is that more tests should be done ... but it is my opinion as an anesthesiologist, as a clinical doctor and not as a researcher. As for whether quarantine should or should not exist and whether the elderly or vulnerable groups should be limited only, the issue is that we are again relying on the restriction argument: high-risk groups. Whoever visits them if he is a carrier will transmit the disease to them. Even if the basic hygiene rules are followed, the disease will be transmitted again. It takes 2 meters distance for 15 minutes !!! and that means you are a suspicious case now. He has to dress up as a scuba diver (let me express myself) who comes in contact with others so as not to infect them. 2-3 strangers. Unfortunately, for hours, the best solution "appears" so as not to "load" our health system, which is not prepared by resources (yet ...). All this with the assumptions that with the change of the weather and maybe with the possible seasonality of the virus, its life will decrease and therefore its transmission. If the metro works well. Otherwise we will become Italian and we will make a decision. Normally, someone who has symptoms (mild) should not even go to the hospital, before the pandemic.

I quote a link that mentions both views and talks about Sweden. Read it, it's worth it.

Because I run with different I can answer after days. IF I need to answer.
As for whether it is made or not, I don't know, I don't think and I don't care. Treatment and vaccination must be found.

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The "riot" that took place was isolated and transferred to the cafe and of course it was locked. It was not deleted because there was an exchange of views, perhaps in an inelegant way in some cases but ok ...

The local here, again opened to continue at an informative level without controversy.

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