How do you verify your accounts? Fonbet case

Nikko

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For years now, whenever I need to send online identification documents, I always put a watermark in front of them.
I do this for safety reasons, because regardless of what the companies say, you never know what could happen the day after tomorrow.
There are endless examples of systems being leaked and hacked and personal information leaked.
The watermark is a security key that may not be 100% immutable but is intended to prevent someone from unauthorized use of the document.

So I do the same at Fonbet. They seem to be the only ones I remember who don't accept it.
They asked for ID without any trace.

What do you do in this case?
I mention that such instructions have also been given by INKA so that personal data can be protected in this way.

 
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Yes. What do we do with those who do not accept it?
They sent me an email simply like: Don't be sad! We take the issue of safety very seriously!

I wonder if they see a hack, what will they say?
Or even worse, is there a leak from the inside? As long as we don't forget that we are talking about private companies, private employees who looked at our records in batches and were fired-hired whenever they were, without us knowing what phase each one of them was in.
 
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So, I did what I said above.
Those you mention, and I imagine others, cooperate with other services that offer identification.
fonbet specifically cooperates with SumSub. That's where they send our details. Obviously the procedure is described in the terms of use when they do not do anything reprehensible, with the difference that our records travel with "our permission" to distant places.

My own document, because I had edited it for the watermark through photoshop, was rejected by the system because of some metadata that photoshop leaves in the file. So the SumSub software had a red flag.
The solution was to remove the metadata from the file, I did it and for good or bad a pdf passed the identification normally despite the watermark.
 
all those who check records the first thing they check is the EXIF ​​file
everything can be seen there

if it was opened, when it was made, if it was processed, etc
 
Same case with bet365. I sent again with a watermark, this time with the EXIF ​​data deleted.
But he didn't make them.
I finally wrote on the ID with a marker and sent a photo with a slightly aggressive style and they passed it.
This thing has happened.
I don't feel comfortable that the other person has an intrinsic identity in his books. The day after tomorrow I can find my boyfriend. I mean, they will find him, but why get involved...
 
Each company obviously has a different way of verifying information. For example, Pokerstars.gr did not accept an ID that was issued 15 years ago, they did not even want a driver's license or a passport. The rationale was that the ID has expired and should have been issued recently. All other companies accepted this ID as normal.
 
This is exactly the problem. That the same document is accepted by some and others not.
When you obey some laws, you can't do whatever comes into your head.
And what is laughable is that these same people claim in such cases that "we have a legal obligation towards the state" and blah blah blah.
When something is in accordance with the law, you accept it. In your case, the identity card is valid for 15 years.
But no, I don't accept a diploma or a passport because that's what I want. If you had a license from Curacao, then do whatever you want. But from the moment you are legally in Greece, you accept it without me.
Just obviously there is impunity for that everyone dances.
Novibet asks me for a selfie and mobile verification to withdraw my initial capital. I put in 20 euros, 20 euros I want to get back since I realized that I have eaten limit. I closed the account and will report them.
I am asking for a refund, not a withdrawal.
 

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