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It's time to file my first income tax return in time. Last year I started arbitrage and I want to ask you what is happening with the tax return.

1. Do they look like income?
2. Withdrawals from scroll, revolut, are seen in AADE; I did 90% of the trades from there because I thought they might give more coverage. (In Revolut, I never entered a VAT number because I opened it 5-6 years ago. Now it asks and says that if you don't enter it by the end of June, restrictions will apply due to a change in the legislative framework)

The accountant said that I should request the total movements of the year from each bookmaker. In general, I didn't see her very experienced in this part..

3. Are deposits and withdrawals consolidated? Because in arbing in one company you can keep making deposits because it keeps losing and the other one wins and needs withdrawals which are essentially virtual because you put them in the other company.

Anyone who can answer these questions for me, I will treat you to Internet beer
 
Probably only those who win in OPAP and have to get it through a Bank. And since I mentioned OPAP, ask your agent a question.
 
Cinema, joker, lotto;

You mentioned that you don't get them at the bank, from the betting shop, but in wallets. So I assumed you would have gotten their cards as well.
Yes I use revolut from where I spend the money from my winnings and I also use it scroll to transfer from one to another. My issue is that Revolut now asks for VAT number and I don't remember if the scroll he had it as a condition for verification.
 
In the tax declaration, they do not appear as income. They have a special code 781/782 and are pre-taxed. That is, you ask the company you play with to issue you a profit certificate for the year, for example 2022, and on the certificate it says that, for example, so-and-so played this total amount in our company and its gross profit is this. The total amount of taxes withheld and paid to the Greek government is this, and the net amount is this. The net amount is entered in the above codes 781/782.
 
In the tax declaration, they do not appear as income. They have a special code 781/782 and are pre-taxed. That is, you ask the company you play with to issue you a profit certificate for the year, for example 2022, and on the certificate it says that, for example, so-and-so played this total amount in our company and its gross profit is this. The total amount of taxes withheld and paid to the Greek government is this, and the net amount is this. The net amount is entered in the above codes 781/782
If I don't declare them at all? Are there any repercussions?
 
If I don't declare them at all? Are there any repercussions?
if we are talking about small amounts, nobody from the tax office will care. If we are talking about a large amount, then it would be good to declare it so that you can justify a possible future purchase with this money. This is a general rule, not only for betting. You don't have does he ever do your tax return again?
 
It's time to file my first income tax return in time. Last year I started arbitrage and I want to ask you what is happening with the tax return.

1. Do they look like income?
2. Withdrawals from scroll, revolut, are seen in AADE; I did 90% of the trades from there because I thought they might give more coverage. (In Revolut, I never entered a VAT number because I opened it 5-6 years ago. Now it asks and says that if you don't enter it by the end of June, restrictions will apply due to a change in the legislative framework)

The accountant said that I should request the total movements of the year from each bookmaker. In general, I didn't see her very experienced in this part..

3. Are deposits and withdrawals consolidated? Because in arbing in one company you can keep making deposits because it keeps losing and the other one wins and needs withdrawals which are essentially virtual because you put them in the other company.

Anyone who can answer these questions for me, I will treat you to Internet beer
1.looks like income. If you have taken them from a Greek bookmaker, everything is fine because they have already been taxed. If you have done it from abroad, you will have an issue
2 yes, but they were all talking to aade.
3. every bookmaker will give you a statement based on your net profit....that is, what turnover you have made and how much profit
 
Good evening guys. I am thinking of asking for confirmation of winnings from bet365 and fonbet (we escaped in 2023 and it has to be declared). Of course, I have a doubt as to whether this will "wake up" them and bring a limit of €1 (yes, it has happened to some of my old companies). In a first exploratory contact, the response in the chat was that you apply, a check will be made and if any documents are needed, we will ask for it...and a little vague in terms of times, publisher (depending on the load of the department, etc.)...(I asked if the control will bring a freeze on the account, they said no, everything is normal) So questions: 1. isn't there a legal framework that defines the procedure? (I read somewhere about sending a settlement statement) 2. How long does the process take 3. Is there anyone who had a problem with the one who requested a certificate? either limit or beyond the settlement to ask for something else, etc. I ask because I am torn between two thoughts 1. you have to ask for a certificate because they are large amounts and the tax office will ask where you are from 2. don't wake them up - they will find some reason and limit you during the "check" (they are the two best companies for me and I won't have the same level of play in other countries in Greece) and if the tax office asks what and how do you try then (although it was said that they give for the previous year). It should be noted that in one I have been a customer for 10+ years in the other since it came 2-3 years ago. Anyone who knows is welcome to know/knowledge...
 
Good morning.
Because I saw somewhere that table 6 of E1 comes pre-filled, do we know what is going to be done there? Will, for example, the withdrawals that were re-deposited in the table to cover evidence, while there is no actual change in property, since the money was played again? Do we have any idea if the bookies will be required by the tax authorities and banks to offset deposits/withdrawals so that only actual profits can be seen? Or will pearls appear on the tax returns for no reason and we will be chasing profit certificates in years of bad luck? I see every bookie throwing theirs away
 

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